Published on May 19, 2004 By Winmodify In WinCustomize Talk
Hello, we're looking for people who can make us a logo.
we are searching for something like wincustomize has..
a little creature or something, it has to be 3d.
colours that can be used, lightblue/silver/grey. We like glassy effects.
Check here to get an idea what fits the image:
http://probeer.winmodify.com

If you have any more questions please let us know.

Thanks in advance,
Roeland/Leo
WINMODIFY


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on May 26, 2004

DWatson: I don't remember of ever getting any email from you, please email me again treetog@pixtudio and I will answer all your questions.

Winmodify: We plan to start to work on your logo tomorrow, about banners, we can talk about that later, first let's see if we can please you. GO! GO!

on May 26, 2004
Okay I will, It will say tribal skin inquiry, but it'll be a couple hours because i need to find the sample graphics i had again
on May 26, 2004
If and I say IF, I was to be stuck on the idea of a Chameleon, I would put the sucker on top of a Window with only it's shadow and possibly a tonal shift showing the outline. Though I might make the eyes, nails and tip of the tail more visable and consistant with a living one. ( Lizard, not Window )


on May 26, 2004
Treetog you've got mail...
on May 27, 2004
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I dont see anything about that chameleon bieng copyrighted. Well if I missed something, tell me.
on May 27, 2004
#61 by Uzair Sajid - 5/27/2004 1:16:25 AM READ carefully...Copyright © 2002 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved.This publication, or parts thereof, may not be reproduced in any form, by any method, for any purpose.


I guess you missed the part above where it tells you "THIS PUBLICATION" meaning the exact publication you've recreated by posting in a message board thread...

you crack me up
on May 27, 2004
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btw: the above is key to your point...

The person who Created the Lizard holds all rights to it and it's use. If he told you that you could use it and hand it out to people, then go right ahead. If he didn't, that is what is called ripping....

So...

Put your paint brush down before you get stuck in a corner...
on May 27, 2004
@ IP
on May 27, 2004
this is funny...
on May 27, 2004
Here''s the good part, though I thank you all for getting to that before I could. You "SAY" you''re and artist, in fact I''ll quote you on claiming it. "i am also an artist and know what it feels like if your hardmade stuff gets stolen." If thats true, then copyright or not, why would you still persist to try and rip someone elses stuff. If you''re an artist why aren''t you making your own stuff instead of just changing the color of SOMEONE ELSE''S model. Now''s a golden opportunity to show what you CAN do if you CAN do it.
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on May 27, 2004
Wow, I haven't seen you here in a while horiz0n, or is it just me?

But c'mon people, I don't think winmodify is needs to see the 2nd logo. If treetog das indeed come up with a logo for him he will probably love it, and it will probably be much better.

Winmodify, if you don't like treetogs logo (I dont think its possible, but IF) contact me. You already have me in your msn if I am right. I will do it for you then.
on May 27, 2004
# 62
and # 66

Hey when did i say that were using it. Were not. But if we get a permission from the author himself, then maybe the case would be different. So do you have any contact infoof the author 'John'.
on May 27, 2004
Sorry Styl, been pretty busy with school. I've got nothing but time now

Anyway to finish this off, besides the ripping, the copyright, and alllllll physicalities of the matter. Even if winmodify was granted permission to use it, you still have 2 major problems.

1. [Creativity] The fact that the lizard is the logo/mascot of wincustomize makes it look like either they (winmodify) are trying to ride in their wake. And the fact that it's already been done, and in the same type of field makes it completely redundant. FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION!! The last thing winmodify would need is unintentional confusion to users, winmodify is not wincustomize, and hence it needs to show that, and make sure people know it is different.

2. [Example] What type of message are you giving to users on a "graphic" site no less, if your logo isn't even original. All logo's need to have a connection to what they are representing, and having a chameleon for a logo makes no ties as to what the site is about. In which case I'd also like to point out the lizard is not the logo of wincustomize, it is a mascot. You do not need a picture in a logo, a logo can be anything. An image, text, shape, even a solid color. Winmodify NEEDS an original logo easily recognizable as their own, makes a connection with them, and like all good logo's to be simple.


You need to find out what winmodify is about and stands for, gather ideas, then once you know what the logo should communicate, then you can start to work on it. Don't try working backwards, just because they need a logo doesn't mean the best thing to do would be, lets find a groovy cool picture. Logo's are a different ballgame altogether.

Look at logo's that do work, and are highly succesful. Many you can identify just by the shape, or color. If you see two arches and think of "mcdonalds," or red and yellow and think "kodak" then that is an EXTREMELY succesful logo. Logo's also need to WORK the size of a billboard, a lighter, and a dime. And frankly, a highly detailed render isn't going to cut it at different sizes like that. Thats why simplicity is "key", the more simple the logo, the easier it is to remember, and recognize.
on May 27, 2004
Well Your right. btw The chameleon wasn't my idea, WinMod demanded a lizard so i gave them a Lizard.("A Lizard logo Looks Stupid" as put forth by my little bro).

I also prefer text and shape logos. Like what would you think of if you see Blue curved rectangles like this: //\ ??
on May 27, 2004
Demanded a Lizard?

Uzee go to bed!
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